Here's my version of a quality dex whatever build that I mainly use. I really like it because of the free ring slot which is a huge advantage because if your opponent is flipping then you can flip and you won't loose the poise advantage like you would if you wore the wolf/Fap combo. The reason I go to 25/40 instead of 28 is because (1) I have no interest in the murakumo (too heavy and prefer server or gravelord sword) and (2) with the use of the bastard sword (an underused weapon with cool one handed R2's) you have the AR of a Claymore so you are not really loosing anything except the Leo counters that the Claymore has. When invading in the forest I like to keep my pyro glove right under my bow for menu swapping to use power within and use either Red Tearstone or lingering Dragoncrest ring (your choice). I also really think that the flippu/hornet are great against gankers because of the great damage from the crits or the ease of mobility with the flips. Either way this is a great, well thought out build that is fun for duels and is still very viable for forest invasions because of how adaptable it is. Enjoy and I hope to maybe see someone rocking this armor set out in darkroot along side. I'm on xbox and if you wanna do some jolly co-op, have some duels or just kick it in the burg and take turns farming burg invaders and summons my gamertag is "ForgottenLeader" so hmu home boys. Or hawt gr1llz ^o^ lol enjoy your sexy build.