Notes from author
modified version of http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27189477
Idea is to fight bs sticks, builds that usually use weapons that break 61 poise anyway
thorns good for surviving 2v1, alternate non thorn setups:
elite knight gauntlets and grass crest shield
elite knight gauntlets, greatsword, and bandit's knife
havel's armor, eastern gauntlets, heater shield
use fire tempest if they cancel a bs, or equip power within if you prefer